Members of the School EDI Committee have identified the importance of talking about hidden disabilities. Mrs Helen Emery, our Operations Manager has identified the importance of starting conversations to understand how disabilities can affect our colleagues within the workplace.
Helen interviewed Professor Andrew Hugill, Deputy Director for the Institute of Digital Culture. Andrew was diagnosed as being autistic at the age of 60 in 2018 and has a fascinating story to share. They identified ten questions that covered a variety of topics, which can be read below the video.
Read the full transcript of the interview with Andrew Hugill (PDF, 795kb)
1) Please can you introduce me to autism?
It’s a profound difference in neurotype – the way the brain is wired. It is present from birth and cannot be cured, since it is not an illness. Psychologists define it as a “spectrum disorder”, meaning that it has many characteristics, such as social and communication issues, repetitive behaviours, and sensory challenges. However, the language of “disorder” and “deficit” is resisted by many autistic people, who prefer to see it in a more positive way. Our different perceptions of the world can mean that we have great focus and attention to detail and are often highly creative and original thinkers who are generally very clear and direct. Being autistic does not necessarily mean you have a learning difficulty, but many autistic people do have an array of other conditions as well. Our understanding of autism is evolving all the time. It has had a chequered history since it was first identified around a century ago. There have been many misconceptions about it and its true extent is only now being fully appreciated.
“Spoons” is a way of describing energy loss. You start the day with, let’s say, ten spoons. Various activities take spoons away, until you are left with none. The trick is to manage your spoons through the day. It’s not easy to get it right.
2) When were you diagnosed with autism and was your loss of hearing diagnosed at the same time or separately?
I was diagnosed in 2018 at the age of 60. My hearing loss was diagnosed in 2009 and was part of the consequences of Ménière’s Disease, a balance disorder that also affects hearing.
3) Please could you explain to me your love of music and composing?
As a child I became very interested in music as an alternative means of expression. I loved words and read voraciously, but at the same time I was aware that there were things that I could not express verbally. I now know this is called alexithymia, which many autistic people have: a condition in which one experiences emotions but has difficulty understanding what they are. So, I think music taught me about emotions. My interest in composing developed out of a childish obsession with the avant-garde and atonal music. As a teenager, I loved dissonance and wanted to create my own original sounds. That interest has evolved, but it remains a key impulse.
4) Please could you tell me about how you got into academia?
I was invited to do some lecturing in Music in 1986 at what was then called Leicester Polytechnic. I ended up getting a full-time lectureship and it all developed from there.
5) Why did you stay in academia and what is it that suits you and good about it?
It provides me with a structured world within which I can pursue my ‘special interests’, because they are not seen as a problem but rather a strength! I enjoy the interactions with new ideas and the constant sense of discovery. I also love having the resources of a university available to me. I am very good at my job too, which helps. I have had numerous awards for excellent teaching and research.
6) Academia relies a lot on interaction with other people, how do you manage this?
By understanding the rules of the game. Academic interactions are generally purposeful and structured, even when they appear playful and unpredictable. What I cannot abide are random, inconsequential encounters.
7) You have mentioned to me previously about the work you have completed for the Phoenix in Leicester and how this transpired providing a space for those with Autism – please could you explain this in more detail?
Back in 1999 I was asked to help design a digital gallery at Phoenix. What I created, unwittingly, was an autism friendly space. Over the past year, they have invited me back as part of a group of disabled people to help design their new extension. It’s well worth a visit. I’m delighted to say that it is really autism friendly, with low stimulus colours, clear signage, beautiful acoustic design, appropriate lighting, and much more.
8) Please can you explain more to be about the ‘Autism Friendly’ spaces that you have built?
Most autistic people get overwhelmed by too much or confusing information, bright lights and uncontrolled sounds, certain smells and textures, unclear signage and bewildering spaces, and so on. Really it is a question of thinking through every aspect of the space from an autistic perspective and designing accordingly.
9) Do you have any advice for parents with children who have autism?
They don’t “have autism”. It’s not a disease. They are autistic. Accepting that is a good first step for any parent. In fact, it’s all about acceptance really. Accepting the reality of their autism and understanding how to make their lives better, rather than trying to ‘correct’ their behaviour. I recommend highly the book Avoiding Anxiety in Autistic Children, by Luke Beardon.
10) Please can you explain to me how a fire alarm activating affects you?
It is completely overwhelming. I have many sensory issues, and the combination of loud sound, unexpected demands and, usually, flashing lights, means that I go into a ‘shutdown’ and cannot move or speak. It’s very dangerous.